Forum Thread
Search
by member
  Posts  
Changes to Liquor Licensing for Florists (Forums : Off Topic : Changes to Liquor Licensing for Florists) Post Reply
Thread Options
Feb 1 2010, 2:56pm Anchor

I have just received an email saying that new exemptions now apply to florists, allowing limited sale of liquor without having to obtain a liquor license. Section 12 of the Liquor Act 1992 now allows Florists & Gift Baskets to include up to 2 litres of wine, not exceeding 75% of the total flower/basket value. It must be delivered and the liquor must be purchased on a retail basis.

All I can say is about time!!! Our shop has not supplied alcohol in keeping with the Liquor license laws and we have turned down many orders (especially Petals/Teleflora etc.) because of this fact. So I am very happy to hear this news :D

Cheers,
Annette
Flowerfusion - Flowers & Gifts

Edited by: Flowerfusion

Feb 1 2010, 3:21pm Anchor

Annette is this only to do with the Queensland liquor licensing?

We recently had a LARGE increase in it's license fee's in the last year because of the Victorian Governments new legislation that has put several businesses out of action because of the extreme hike (Not Florists though)

Feb 1 2010, 3:37pm Anchor

Justice.vic.gov.au

This is the Vic. web page for all you need to know about the laws.

Olgr.qld.gov.au

Same for Qld.

--

Regards

james

Feb 4 2010, 8:51pm Anchor

Be alert to the full story of the misleading email received entitled "changes to liquor licensing" for all florists.
The law states that all liqour must be bought at an retail outlet at retail prices.
Liqour placed in a flower order must be cost out at the retail price paid. A mark-up is not allowed
Two litres of wine or one litre of spirits is the maximum allowed in one order.
The value of liqour in any one order must not exceed 75% of the total value of the order.
The order must be delivered and not be a cash and carry from the floristshop.

This email is just another promotion ploy of taking the florist "for a ride" to sell this company's wine. An customer order can request $75 of liqour in a $100 order, with a delivery fee of $10 allows $15 for flowers and make-up which does not even cover time.
A Florist still has to have a Liqour Licence to buy Wholesale and sell retail
If the law stated 25% liqour the florist may be able to make a little profit out of the flowers.

When are Australian Florists going to support one another and be proud of their Industry and promote flowers for the betterment of the enviroment?
 
This Liqour Industry is another to add to the list of rip-off Industries playing on the florists ie "order-gatherers, relays, funeral, computers, internet, websites,  etc. who make more profit out of flowers than the florists do.

The FLORISTS PRODUCTS are FLOWERS, PRESENTATION, and SERVICE to the HEALTH of the LOCAL COMMUNITY
Learn to cost for your own shop and to say NO to those orders you cannot complete and present by using your own formula.

Cheers....EFlowersAlive...The Wise Old Owl.....Ron

Feb 5 2010, 5:59am Anchor

I wonder if they changed the law because Florists wanted to be able to say "Yes we can send a bottle of wine with your order". Instead of "No, unfortunately we are not able to provide alcohol as we are not licensed".  I don't care who uses this fact to advertise their product, good on them, I wouldn't have known about the change if they didn't. I also don't mind providing an extra service to my customers at cost price, after all those that would use this service don't ask for two bottles of wine and a single rose, they usually spend @ $100 on flowers then add some wine, but maybe your customers are different to mine. You do what is best for you and yours and I will do what is best for me and mine :)

Cheers,
Annette
Flowerfusion - Flowers & Gifts

Edited by: Flowerfusion

Feb 5 2010, 12:12pm Anchor

Wow, very strange. I remember at TAFE that my teacher said exactly what Eflowersalive is saying, that you can't mark up alcohol or advertise. But when the interflora rep came to sign me up, I queried that and she said we can mark up, but can't have alcohol in the showroom.

From the interflora IAU browser, see number 5- (NSW)

NEW SOUTH WALES The sale of liquor to accompany a flower package is exempt from the legislation and does not require a licence provided that:- 1.       The liquor provided to the consumer is included in the gift basket such as flowers/mixed goods. 2.       The liquor provided may not exceed 2 litres. 3.       The basket must go to the gift recipient. 4.       The liquor may only be purchased from a retailer and not a wholesaler of liquor, that is off licence retail or hotel licence holders. 5.       There is no restriction as to the sale price of the liquor. 6.       The liquor cannot be delivered to/left with anyone under the age of 18. 7.       The liquor cannot be left unattended e.g door stop delivery is not permissible. A flower retailer should assume it may not sell only liquor direct to the public without considerable costs and expense.  In New South Wales, a retailer seeking to sell liquor may either choose to purchase a dormant licence or alternatively make a fresh application to the licensing authority to sell liquor to the public.  Either alternative will cost considerable time and money and will also require Council approval. 

Feb 5 2010, 1:41pm Anchor

THANK YOU Glorisa and your detail of the law. The point I tried to make was that Florists received an email stating the law had been changed in favour of the Florist. This is only a ploy for this company to sell more of their products by using flowers to enhance their sales. The law has not changed. Florists have always been able to include liqour under very strigent conditions. THE LAW STATES THAT A PROFIT ON LIQOUR CANNOT BE MADE AT A RETAIL OUTLET UNLESS A LIQOUR LICENCE IS HELD FOR THE PREMISES.
Are we as florists ment to make a profit? When a good hard look at this Florist Industry is made, I ask the question why are we wasting our time?
This Florist Industry in the present day is in its lowest ebb for 40 years. Other Industries are making greater profits  from the florist than the florists themslves. Eg Ordergatherers, Relays, Funeral, Internet Operators, IT and Computers,Promotions Companies etc and now Liqour Companies wanting us to sell their product at no profit. Come on Florists are we not intellegent enough to be able to take a 3 minute phone call DIRECT from YOUR LOCAL CUSTOMER without any interference.   Cheers....think about it...........The Wise Old Owl at EFlowersAlive.........Ron

Reply to Thread

Only registered members can share their thoughts. So come on! Join the FlowerGoss community today (totally free) and join in the conversation.